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#127304: "Can't Move"
#127304: "Can't Move"
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무슨 일이 발생했나요? 아래에서 선택하세요
인터페이스 때문에 룰 상 할 수 있는 특정 행동을 하지 못했습니다
무슨 일이 발생했나요? 아래에서 선택하세요
인터페이스 때문에 룰 상 할 수 있는 특정 행동을 하지 못했습니다
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• 만약 오류 메세지가 화면에 나타났다면, 그 오류 메세지를 복사해서 붙여넣어 주시기 바랍니다.
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 무엇을 하고 싶었고, 무엇을 했고, 무슨 일이 일어났는지를 설명해 주십시오
Select a dice.
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I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Google Chrome v125
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• 당신이 막혔을 때 화면에 무엇이 나타났습니까?(검은 화면? 게임 인터페이스? 오류 메시지?)
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Google Chrome v125
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• 어느 규칙이 BGA 서비스에서 존중되지 않았습니까?
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 게임 리플레이에서 룰 위반을 확인할 수 있습니까?만약 그렇다면, 몇번째 수에서 룰 위반이 있나요?
Select a dice.
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Google Chrome v125
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• 당신이 하고 싶었던 게임 내 행동이 어느 것입니까?
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 이 게임 행동을 하기 위해 무엇을 시도했습니까?
Select a dice.
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• 당신이 이것을 하려고 했을 때 무슨 일이 일어났습니까?(오류 메시지, 게임 상태창 메시지 등)
It just says Can't move. It will let me pass.
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• 어떤 부분에서 문제가 발생 하였나요(문제가 발생했을 당시 어떤 지시가 내려졌었나요)?
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 당신이 게임 행동을 하려 했을 때 무슨 일이 일어났습니까?(오류 메시지, 게임 상태 막대 메시지, ...)
Select a dice.
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Google Chrome v125
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• 디스플레이 문제를 설명해주세요. 만약에 버그에 대한 스크린샷을 가지고 계신다면 Imgur.com 사이트에 업로드 하시고, 여기에 링크를 복사/붙여넣기 하시기 바랍니다.
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Google Chrome v125
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• 최대한 쉽게 그 뜻을 이해할 수 있도록 당신의 제안을 정확하고 명료하게 설명해 주십시오.
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Google Chrome v125
보고 이력
2024년 Jun 13일 23:04 • steve-perkins • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
It would appear that another player can't move also.
2024년 Jun 14일 04:09 • ODaly • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
On BGG (in this post boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/article/41122244#41122244), JC specifically calls out that players may make an exception to be able to move into the shortcut if they have no other way forward. In the BGG illustration, it's an opponent that's blocking the cut, but the ruling can be applied to dirt tokens as well.
2024년 Jun 15일 00:08 • ODaly • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
All 3 remaining players in table 521803413 are now stuck. Game is impossible to continue.
2024년 Jun 16일 15:48 • Phoxtrot • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Yeah, I talked about this a long time ago, it was part of the difficult remaining things to handle
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
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Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
-------------------
Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
2024년 Jun 17일 14:31 • BlueBeetle • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Table #521745410
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
2024년 Jun 26일 20:13 • klurejr • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Table #529385739
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
2024년 Jul 4일 13:17 • JohnG60 • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Rallyman Dirt Game Code 532078373
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
2024년 Jul 4일 17:25 • ODaly • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
The dirt tokens always affect the corner spaces for the tile they are on, but do not change the speed of the shortcut. A token would've turned that corner into a 1/0 corner and two or more would make the regular path through the corner completely impassable. Meanwhile the shortcut remains on it's original speed.
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
2024년 Jul 17일 19:44 • rafiki_33 • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Corner has been reduced to 0 while I was in it. I entered at -1 (the spaces I was on should have been 1) and then someone passed thru the shortcut while I was in the corner and reduced it to -2, making the corner 0 and stranding me mid-slide.
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
2024년 Jul 26일 16:50 • MyBoardGameAddiction • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Same here: 534161856
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
2024년 Jul 30일 23:43 • JeromeLon • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
table=541304199&replayFrom=2620
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
2024년 Jul 31일 00:27 • JeromeLon • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Here is a video of what it looks like from the player's perspective: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhQhCmii3dI
2024년 Jul 31일 01:18 • JitaKyoei • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Good morning,
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
2024년 Aug 3일 08:04 • ODaly • 개발자가 아직 버그를 재현하지 않았습니다:
Jerome, it's because the dirt tokens are affecting the corner spaces even though they are placed on the shortcut. The shortcut itself is not affected by the tokens, only the spaces on the road. I have made a report for this same issue here
/bug?id=128571
/bug?id=128571
2024년 Aug 22일 14:49 • derby-digital • 버그가 수정되었습니다:
Hello,
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
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