#132354: "Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
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• 만약 오류 메세지가 화면에 나타났다면, 그 오류 메세지를 복사해서 붙여넣어 주시기 바랍니다.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
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• 무엇을 하고 싶었고, 무엇을 했고, 무슨 일이 일어났는지를 설명해 주십시오
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 해당 문장이 번역 본부에서 표시됩니까? 만약 그렇다면, 번역된 지 24시간이 경과했습니까?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• 최대한 쉽게 그 뜻을 이해할 수 있도록 당신의 제안을 정확하고 명료하게 설명해 주십시오.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
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• 당신이 막혔을 때 화면에 무엇이 나타났습니까?(검은 화면? 게임 인터페이스? 오류 메시지?)
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
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• 어느 규칙이 BGA 서비스에서 존중되지 않았습니까?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 게임 리플레이에서 룰 위반을 확인할 수 있습니까?만약 그렇다면, 몇번째 수에서 룰 위반이 있나요?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• 당신이 하고 싶었던 게임 내 행동이 어느 것입니까?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 이 게임 행동을 하기 위해 무엇을 시도했습니까?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• 당신이 이것을 하려고 했을 때 무슨 일이 일어났습니까?(오류 메시지, 게임 상태창 메시지 등)
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• 어떤 부분에서 문제가 발생 하였나요(문제가 발생했을 당시 어떤 지시가 내려졌었나요)?
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 당신이 게임 행동을 하려 했을 때 무슨 일이 일어났습니까?(오류 메시지, 게임 상태 막대 메시지, ...)
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• 디스플레이 문제를 설명해주세요. 만약에 버그에 대한 스크린샷을 가지고 계신다면 Imgur.com 사이트에 업로드 하시고, 여기에 링크를 복사/붙여넣기 하시기 바랍니다.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Chrome on iPhone
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• 현재 설정된 언어가 아니라 영어로 표시되는 문장을 복사 후 붙여넣어 주세요. 만약에 버그에 대한 스크린샷을 가지고 계신다면 Imgur.com 사이트에 업로드 하시고, 여기에 링크를 복사/붙여넣기 하시기 바랍니다.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 해당 문장이 번역 본부에서 표시됩니까? 만약 그렇다면, 번역된 지 24시간이 경과했습니까?
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
• 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
Chrome on iPhone
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• 최대한 쉽게 그 뜻을 이해할 수 있도록 당신의 제안을 정확하고 명료하게 설명해 주십시오.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 브라우저가 무엇입니까?
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보고 이력
The referenced Discord post:
"I'd prefer to keep targeting requirements as they are, because skilled players won't benefit from this very much, and new players will be hurt a lot. That said, technically you always resolve skills top to bottom, left to right. You spend the action first, gain/spend the courage, then resolve the skill. Similar to demons, if you do not have a valid target, your skill ends. My recommendation for anyone looking to get that little extra juice out of the system is to stop being n00b and get more skillz so you don't need to waste actions like that 😆." - Lowenhigh (Game Designer)
BGA Guidelines prohibit removing these possibilities: boardgamearena.com/doc/BGA_Studio_Guidelines
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III-2 Be careful about player assistance
As a rule of thumb, in order to respect the original board games, you should not introduce any player assistance feature. An assistance must not be introduced if it directly helps the player to figure out if his move is good or bad. An assistance may be introduced if it can help the player to figure out what moves are available.
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"Disallow skills that don’t have valid target"
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"Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
To provide some bonus info: Andrew was replying to the below caution about contradicting the rulebook. He said to keep them as needing valid targets so as to not contradict the rulebook (i.e. skills are not available for use if they don’t have a valid target):
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268201175212232788
Here’s the rule it contradicts on page 18 of the rulebook, it’s pretty black and white:
imgur.com/a/9sqiac6
However, this has been added where it's applicable.
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